anvilfire NEWS Vol. 26 June 2002, p.2

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June 2002

ABANA Conference 2002
Conference photos by Spencer Meffert

Striker Hammer in use at the ABANA conference.

Many modern smiths are women. The availability of power hammers enables many to do work they ordinarily could not (both men and women). The machines also alow them to be more productive.

In our global market the only way for smiths in the developed high wage nations to compete with cheap low wage imports is to be more efficient. Many commercial and artistic smiths in North America and Europe have shown that they can compete globaly while producing a superior product if they are properly equiped. It is tough, but it can be done.

Chinese Hammers and SPAM OPEN LETTER TO CHINA:
Continued from page 1.

James Cosgrove of Striker Tool Company says that AnYang was one of the companies he visited in China and originally tried to do business with. However, he found that AnYang would say anything to make a sale and then were completely unsupportive afterward. The West coast buyers group has also had the same experience and lack of support. Striker purchased a few hammers from AnYang and found them to be poor quality. Striker deals exclusively with the Shanxi Second Forging Machine Co. Ltd. and has found their product to be of good quality and the company very supportive. The Shanxi Company making many modifications and improvements in their product for Striker and the North American market.

Striker hammers were demonstrated with great success at the recent ABANA conference as the photo above shows. Meanwhile the owner, Mr. Cosgrove talked himself hoarse explaining that Striker had nothing to do with AnYang and their SPAM. The bad reputation created by one company's SPAM costing others time and money.

I've received over 100 pieces of SPAM from AnYang. I've also received complaints about it from other people adding to may email load. AnYang has received hundreds if not thousands of "remove me" mails and they have not responded. I have told them that I would make it a public issue if they didn't stop. And the SPAM kept coming. . .

We all hate SPAM. Companies that SPAM so blatently align themselves the con artists, scammers and thieves that produce the bulk of SPAM. They obviously do not care about their reputation. AnYang Forging Machine Company of China has made themselves an international pariah and damaged the reputations of other Chinese manufacturers.

IF you have asked to be removed from a SPAMer's list such as AnYang's and you continue to receive SPAM then you can file a complaint at

U.S. Federal Trade Commission web site.

You can also forward the SPAM to the Federal Trade Commission at:

uce@ftc.gov (be sure to include full headers)

The email from chinahammers@163.com is from a server operated by:

Netease.com, Inc.
15/F,Kerry Centre, North Tower
Beijing, bj 100020
CHINA

You can send 163.com SPAM complaints to:

~~admin@NEASE.NET~~
The registered administrators address above now bounces.

postmaster@163.com

It will probably be ignored but it will make you feel better. In the future ALL my complaints are going to all three addresses and I will be forwarding one for all seven of my addresses. . .

SPAM, Viruses, Cyber Terrorism and the Nigerian Scam

UPDATE:

July 12, 2002 - AnYang has promised to stop SPAMing.

. . . So here I promise you we will never use this sale method and we will never send the sale letter to you and other USA customer.
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We have planed to sell our forging hammers by this sale method before. But now I find may be we are wrong.
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Zhu Yong Guang

Export Manager
Anyang Forging Press Machinery

They claimed to remove anyone that asked to be removed from their list. However, they had not done so in over a year with the 7 addresses they were sending SPAM to me. I suspect they really have removed ME from the list now. So, if any of you reading this get further SPAM from AnYang AKA Chinahammers, please let me know or forward me a copy.

I'll believe it when they really quit.

Kiwi's New Zealand Gambit: BILLING FOR SPAM - The result of our Sysop (Kiwi) Andrew Hooper's hacking trial was that a precedent was set in New Zealand law. The court found that a cost could be applied to ANY uninvited change in the contents of a computer's data no matter how small. In Kiwi's case the cost was set at a laughable 4 cents!

This was the result of the court trying to stretch current law to fit a "crime" that the law did not cover. However, the precedent WAS SET.

That means that unsolicited SPAM which deposits itself on your computer in New Zealand is illegal AND a cost can be applied to its removal. Since Kiwi is a highly skilled and highly paid computer professional he bills the SPAMers. He has received SPAM from AnYang's chinahammer.com AND he has billed them for it. Interest builds on the debt and the amount grows larger with every new SPAM.

Although no one has tested it, this IS a legal debt in New Zealand. Collecting debts internationally is problematic but any of the debtors property that passes through New Zealand could possibly have a lien placed on it and be seized until the debt is settled OR there is a new court decision. Which could take years. . . I'm sure many laugh when they receive the bill. . but it wont be funny when they land in court. Someone WILL!

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